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=HT=Ingram · Dec 28, 2006, 09:04 PM // 21:04

OK since there is a little interest in this I will find the proposal I made back in 2005 for chapter 1.1 expansion that I made on gwonline.

Quote:

Proposal Revised for 2007:

Chapter 1.1 expansion ESRP via Web store $9.99 US

Proposal:

Searing expansion to Prophacies.

Expansion takes place in Pre-searing Kingdom of Ascalon, and expands that map into the Charr homeland via the Northlands. The expansion
will allow unlocking of the gate portal into other Presearing kingdoms of Tyria during the 2 year gap from presearing to begining of main
part of the game.

7 Map points, 4 missions, 12 quests, 7 cutsences.

Option to get Bags in Presearing.
Option to come out of Presearing at Lions Arch.
New Charr transmorph tonics(50 min),
New Orr Armor crafter (non max LA Eq) and (Max armor colletors).
New Weapons crafter equivilant to Lions Arch crafter.

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Piken Square (outpost)
& Quest Escort Academy recuits through Charr Battle lines to get to Rin.

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[Capital city] Rin (town) (Mission) (party of 2)
** (King Adelbern)
** Prince Rurik
** Lady Glaive
** Vizier Khilbron
** Mhenlo
** Captian Greywind
** Lieutenant Armin Saberlin
$$ (Bags for sale)
*D* King speaks of trade with Cantha with Kingdom of Kryta. (new Emporer Kisu)
*D* King speaks of meeting Emporer Kintha when he was Prince Ruriks age(30).
*D* Old Lady Glaive is a member of Rin Court (speaks of defeat in Elona from 1016 AE)
$$ (Dye Trader)
$$ (Minor Rune Trader)
$$ (Materials Trader)
Nolani Academy (Portal Room)
&(Quest Stormcaller needs repair) {to Surmia}

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Surmia (town) (mage academy)
** Cynn
** Mhenlo
&(Need Someone to inform Crafter in Serenity Temple) {To Serenity Temple}
$$ (Spell Weapons Crafter similar to Yak's Bend)

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Drascir (town)
** Cynn
** Mhenlo
** Prince Rurik
@ Serenity Temple in Drascir
&*&Gwens Fate: Use of gwen quest items
***(Return to Sumeria for Fall of Sumeria Cutscene)
*** Portal from temple to Genitch village via Courthouse

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Grendich Village (outpost)
(Prince Rurik, devona, and cynn; Leads secret mission against charr homeland)
@ Grand Courthouse
** Scorch Emberspire (Emisary of the Charr to the Courthouse)
** Visier Khilbron
** Confessor Dorian
** Ghost of Warmarshal Turai
** Cynn
** Mhenlo
** Prince Rurik
***Descovery of Vizier Khilbron in Grendich Village Looking for way to Control the Charr Gods (Titans) Learns part of the secret involes

the Scepter of Orr by Talking to ghost of Warmarshal Turai.
*D* Discussions of large Charr Monolith known as the Dragons Eye.
$$$(Charr Style desguise Armor, Like a tonic)

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Dragon Gullet area
Dragons Eye(Mission) (party of 4 Desguised as charr)

(mission Topple the Dragon's Eye Monolith to prevent Charr from Spying on Ascalon)
** Dragon's Eye Monolith (Lev 20) {is similar to Ether Seal Elementals}
** Lich Dragon (Lev 20) {Guards the Monolith.}

{Bonus kill boss mob marching towards flame temple before destroying Monolith}
** Evirso Sectus (Charr God) {Unanimated waiting for awaking.}
** Charr Captain (Lev 20) Boss Mob {Guards the Titan Statue.}

(mission complete)***Fall of Ascalon Searing Cutscene Firing of Searing Flame.
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Elite Mission Outpost (requires Lev 20 "Legendary Defender of Ascalon" title):
Use portal with Visier Khilbron to go to Arah in Orr.
Portal to Orr (Capital City of Arah)(Mission Option)
** King Reza
** Vizier Khilbron
** Confessor Dorian
** The Seer
$$ (Storage For Sale)
$$ (Rune of Holding for sale)
$$$(Lev 18 Orr Armor)
&Quest into Arah Catacombs (disable the Vault Defenses) (Arah Catacombs as large as Sorrows Furnece)
&Quest Retrieve the Flame Seekers Prophacies Scrolls from the Valut for the Seer.
*D* Discusion of existance the Dragon Glint
&Quest Seek the location of the Door of Komalie for Visier.
*D* Legend of Abbadons Fall
&Quest Seek the location of the lost Bloodstone for Confessor Dorian.
*D* Legend of the Chosen
&Quest into Arah Catacombs (retrive the lost scrolls for Visier)
*D* Visier Begins to use Forbidden Magics for the alleged Defeat of the Charr.
other NPCs in Arah Catacombs:
** Avatar of Dhuum (quest dialog)
** Avatar of Menzines (quest dialog)
** 5 Orr Collectors (For Armor pieces Equivilant to Desert collectors max armor)

*** Rift opens in Orr

Option 1: (party of 6)
(Mission) Push back the undead to the rift (defeat the Wailing Lord lev 20)
***Sent back to Ascalon Academy with Prince Rurik prior to Cataclysm via Rift portal Thus begins Propachies as normal 1072 AE.

Option 2: (party of 6)
(Mission) Close the Rift to the underworld (Village lost in Rift)
***Sent to Lions Arch with Confessor Dorian prior to Cataclysm via Ship Thus begins Propachies From LA 1072 AE

{Bonus} under 30 mins.
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***The cataclysm cutscene (Vizier Khilbron)
1071 (Fall of Orr) bay of sirens becomes sea of sorrows
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Creatures:
Charr Mobs:

Charr Ash Walker Necromancer 8
Charr Ashen Claw Necromancer 10
Charr Axe Fiend Warrior 10
Charr Axe Warrior Warrior 6
Charr Blade Storm Warrior 8
Charr Blade Warrior Warrior 6
Charr Chaot Mesmer 8
Charr Fire Caller Elementalist 6
Charr Flame Artifact Elementalist 10
Charr Flame Keeper Elementalist 7
Charr Flame Wielder Elementalist 8
Charr Hunter Ranger 10
Charr Martyr Monk 5
Charr Mindspark Mesmer 6
Charr Overseer Monk 15
Charr Shaman Monk 10
Charr Stalker Ranger 6

Swag the Lasher Monk 13
Rrrack Whitefire Monk 15
Scaar Sternclaw Monk 17
Cruc the Reborn Monk 18
Blade Bloodbane Monk 18
Taag Relicbinder Monk 20

Furne Kindleflail Elementalist 10
Torch Spitfur Elementalist 10
Slaug Firehide Elementalist 15
Smoke Kindlefist Elementalist 15
Smuuz the Unfeeling Elementalist 18
Jaw Smokeskin Elementalist 18
Bonfaaz Burntfur Elementalist 18
Suurg the Hateful Elementalist 20

Marr Burnhorn Mesmer 10
Mirash Dreambreaker Mesmer 10
Craze the Unforgiving Mesmer 15
Phang the Deceiver Mesmer 15
Scint The Malign Mesmer 15
Ghast Ashpyre Mesmer 20

Brand the Brawler Warrior 18
Drub Gorefang Warrior 10
Gorgaan Hatemonger Warrior 18
Lumps Ruinator Warrior 10
Puugh the Slasher Warrior 10
Spar the Ravager Warrior 20

Burr Mankiller Necromancer 15
Cess Corpselighter Necromancer 20
Maul Riptear Necromancer 10
Red Eye the Unholy Necromancer 18
Roarst One Eye Necromancer 10

Drim Cindershot Ranger 20
Felinam the Whip Ranger 18
Fling Bloodpelt Ranger 10
Klaww Featherstorm Ranger 10
Maim Deathrain Ranger 15
Slur Scarchest Ranger 10
Vatlaaw Doomtooth Ranger 18

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Orr Creatures:
Earth Elementals
Ice Elemental
Shock
Spider
Dryder
Golem
Najja Doombringer Elementalist 20

Ghosts Creatures:
Angry Spirit Warrior 10
Gaiza Deadeye Mesmer 17
Wraith Mesmer 17
Zaim Grimeclaw Mesmer 20
Ghouls
Nightmare

Skelatel Mobs:
Abijah the Decayed Ranger 12
Azibo Painfeast Mesmer 16
Bija Gravewailer Mesmer 17
Captain Warrior 20
Chita Bonz Ranger 16
Cleric Monk 20
Footman Warrior 20
Gezna Shadowstalker Elementalist 12
Ghita Bonz Ranger 12
Ijan the Cursed Monk 11
Kernal the Deadened Monk 11
Najja Doombringer Elementalist 13
Nazeem the Damned Elementalist 15
Onan the Spiritless Mesmer 11
Raja Crux Monk 13
Sayad the Bloodless Ranger 14
Skeleton Mesmer Mesmer 13
Skeleton Ranger Ranger 18
Skeleton Sorcerer Elementalist 13
Ziyad Soulreaper Mesmer 12
Zombies

Its a rouge draft but you get the idea. making the searing as an expansion for chapter 1 available in the web store for $9.99. (its such a cheap price cause of the minimal amount of content that is in it. But enough not to be free either. )

Not A Fifty Five · Dec 28, 2006, 11:57 PM // 23:57

yeah having it as an expansion would be really cool

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=HT=Ingram · Dec 31, 2006, 10:27 AM // 10:27

lol see thats what happened last time. I went ahead and made it and it was like HUH.. no.. lol oh well...

Skuld · Dec 31, 2006, 10:55 AM // 10:55

Lol, I never will understand you pre-searing nuts

Fallen Hunter · Jan 03, 2007, 04:22 AM // 04:22

/signed
/signed
and /signed again

I love pre searing! Having something like this would make it so much more interesting! Actually, earlier today i was killing the charr bosses and I thought "Wouldn't it be great for these guys to drop greens".

Also, I agree that the Ldoa title shouldnt require death levelling. After all, death levelling is an exploit, and we all know how much A-net despises exploits...

TheLordOfBlah · Jan 03, 2007, 04:38 AM // 04:38

as small as it is, theres a chance for everything.

even though they said they werent updating chapter one, they added the defender of ascalon title didnt they?

/signed

Neo Nugget · Jan 03, 2007, 04:41 AM // 04:41

/signed x 100000.
this would be the coolest thing since......guildwars

i would like this more than an auction house

yes....yes i said it! muahhaaha!

Mr D J · Jan 03, 2007, 05:30 AM // 05:30

/signed

I LOVE pre-searing. Love love love it. The only thing I don't like about the idea is that your char'd have to be lvl 12 at least. I'd make it 10. Otherwise, love the idea.

Achilles Antony · Jan 03, 2007, 05:32 AM // 05:32

/signed

Great idea, I'd love to see it, but I doubt it will ever happen. Still, we can always hope, right?

Curse You · Jan 03, 2007, 05:52 AM // 05:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Hunter

Also, I agree that the Ldoa title shouldnt require death levelling. After all, death levelling is an exploit, and we all know how much A-net despises exploits...

They made a title for getting to level 20 in Pre-searing. The only way to do that is by death leveling. So actually, the title shows that they support this "exploit."

Spirit_Axery · Jan 03, 2007, 06:54 AM // 06:54

/signed

I don't have much faith in Anet's level of attention to the community, and I have even less faith in their will to change just to make players happy- no matter how many- rather than for profit. Still, I'll sign.

If they charged me €10.00 or so for the changes outlined by the OP and also by Ingram as a downloadable expansion, I'd pay it in a heartbeat.

Aegeroth · Jan 03, 2007, 07:12 AM // 07:12

If they don't want to add anything to Prophecies, why don't we ask them to make a Chapter on it? Or mabye a bit more "out there" a mini-chapter!

The new Chapter, as no doubt many before me have said, could be the prelude to Ascalon's Fall. We could even merge the games together with new players of both games starting in Pre-Searing Ascalon. They could open the entire of Pre-Searing Ascalon to both Chapters, but the paths each Chapter follows is Different, in Prophecies we were loyal to Rurik, in *new Chapter* we may remain loyal to Adelbern, and continue to combat the Charr. which leads us on an Offesive to the north, coming to new places and such.

I'm gonna continue this on a new thread, i dont want to hijack yours

Anyway, your idea is good Max.
/signed

Curse You · Jan 03, 2007, 07:26 AM // 07:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aegeroth

If they don't want to add anything to Prophecies, why don't we ask them to make a Chapter on it? Or mabye a bit more "out there" a mini-chapter!

The new Chapter, as no doubt many before me have said, could be the prelude to Ascalon's Fall. We could even merge the games together with new players of both games starting in Pre-Searing Ascalon. They could open the entire of Pre-Searing Ascalon to both Chapters, but the paths each Chapter follows is Different, in Prophecies we were loyal to Rurik, in *new Chapter* we may remain loyal to Adelbern, and continue to combat the Charr. which leads us on an Offesive to the north, coming to new places and such.

I'm gonna continue this on a new thread, i dont want to hijack yours

It's already been sugested, and it just wouldn't work. There's no way to make it fit in with the other campaigns, seeing how it would have to be set in the past.

Teger · Jan 03, 2007, 07:56 AM // 07:56

/signed for piken square, and higher lvl charr
/notsigned for greens

Piken square you can already see in the distance in pre, probably wouldnt be too hard to just make it so you need to fight your way through about 5 or so groups of charr and a charr boss at the gates to get to it, and haveing it be a 4 man outpost would be AWESOME! Mabey even put in a repeatable quest like "Piken square is under siege by the charr! If you can kill 10 charr, I will give you this: Reward: 1500 xp 20 gold" Would it make it easyer to hit lvl 20 in pre? Yes. Would it make hitting lvl 20 in pre much more FUN? Definatly!

As for the greens...they just wouldnt belong in pre...although makeing the ability to salvage off mods would be nice...perhaps a special high lvl area beyond piken with "elite" charr who have a higher chance of dropping grapes and golds? And ofc, another armor crafter...would rock....seeing my ele with 7 armor is always disconcerting...

Bbickford · Jan 18, 2007, 12:01 AM // 00:01

/Signed

I have often wanted pre searing to be updated. I have fantisized about going beyong those locked gates out in the northland. Kill a lvl 11 monster that u didnt death lvl.

Whats the deal with death lvling anyways! A-net makes it so u can't death lvl in one update, and then in the next u can do it again. Also who really wants to spend HUNDREDS of hours letting your character die, so that (about) every six hours you can get 100exp?

It is also imposible to get survivor and LDoA, and i know lots of people whould like to get ALL the titles.

In conclusion: pre searing is fun, but it can be made better. Death lvling of any sort is lame. And all we can do is wish:*(

AuraofMana · Jan 18, 2007, 04:10 AM // 04:10

Chances are Anet won't do it.

RodyPA · Jan 18, 2007, 04:18 PM // 16:18

While I would find extra content in pre-searing very attractive, I think the reason there is no Piken Square is that at the point of pre-searing, it has already been overtaken by Charr. Note than in post-searing, it mentions that in years past, it was a market. You can pass over the area it occupies in pre-searing while in the Northlands, and it's in occupied Charr lands. It's not until post-searing that Ascalonians start to take the land back.

Yanman.be · Jan 18, 2007, 04:27 PM // 16:27

You really think all your time you invested in creating that is worth anything? A.Net's not going to release new content for CH1, and certainly not for low-level.

Celain · Jan 18, 2007, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

You really think all your time you invested in creating that is worth anything? A.Net's not going to release new content for CH1, and certainly not for low-level.

If you don't ask, you'll never know. Also, with enough interest I'm sure they'd at least review the idea. Clearly they recognize that people are interested in pre-searing above and beyond just being a tutorial area. I think the differences between pre-searing, and the tutorial areas in Factions and Nightfall are a reflection of this. Not to mention the addition of a title for characters reaching level 20 in pre-searing.

I won't go the route of "signing" or "not signing", as that falls into the realm of online petitions, which in my experience, are not very useful. I will say that I support some degree of change in pre-searing. At the very least, the addition of a single mob of sufficient level to allow someone to attain level 20 without death leveling.

Sophitia Leafblade · Jan 18, 2007, 04:39 PM // 16:39

I think it would be nice if Anet did expand Presearing if only slightly.

Eg adding 2 new Outposts and a couple of new explorable areas with higher lvl enemys to remove the death leveling in Pre. Acouple of new quests would be fun too just to spice pre up. eg. Race x to Fort Ranik. a slight boost of the collector AL would be a good idea too to keep up with the higher lvl enemys. Eg. Casters AL from 7 to 10, Ranger 12 to 15 and Warriors AL from 27 to 30

although i doubt anet would do it...

/signed